We present a dialogue with Alessandro Gagliardo, focusing on his artistic work with obsolete media formats and his approach to filmmaking as a militant use of the archive. The conversation delves into his experiences with Malastrada Film, the Festival dell'Archivio and his views on the role of archives in contemporary visual culture. Gagliardo advocates a dynamic, non-linear engagement with both archival material and the archive itself, emphasising the active role of the archivist in the creative process.