In this 2004 interview, conducted by Yann Moulier Boutang and Carlo Vercellone, André Gorz develops three crucial points of his analysis of cognitive capitalism. The first concerns the redefinition of exploitation and emancipation required by the fact that labor is no longer measurable in terms of discrete time units. The second regards the distinction between the notion of connaissance – essentially objective and formalizable – and savoir – essentially living and lived. The third is related to those objective as well as subjective elements that make cognitive capitalism the expression of a capitalist crisis which contains the embryonic form of an alternative social model.
